Enoch-2699399, Is He Good Enough?

I hope you share my appreciation for Enoch. Your comments are welcome.

So far, the poll results reflect one "For" vote and zero "No" votes recieved.

29 votes

#1 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 3:01 AM EST

Of course he deserves it!
:D

24 votes

#1.1 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 3:09 AM EST

Thank you, Abby.

20 votes

#1.2 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 3:37 AM EST

He deserves nothing of the sort- his articles never have any fights for me to have fun with!! I nominate him for Vine-saint canonization.

27 votes

#1.3 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 10:39 AM EST

rochart

Done and supported. He is a human being above all else. If only I might be as good a person as he.

17 votes

#1.4 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 12:37 PM EST

Neale, Okay. Thanks for polling.

14 votes

#1.5 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 1:56 PM EST

Rochart, your poll vote is much appreciated.

14 votes

#1.6 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 1:57 PM EST

(actually, I voted my good friend Enoch up. If I'd known of this award, I would have nominated him for it months ago. If anyone deserves it, it's Enoch)

19 votes

#1.7 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 2:33 PM EST

lamplighter

I concur "Yes".

15 votes

#1.8 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 3:17 PM EST

j. johnson-3157491

hi AL i voted yes and gave my opinion in the link you sent but don't see it. if i did the wrong thing then "yes i believe he is ripe for that recognition he has helped me as well as many others. his commentary is both insightful and informative." congrats to friend Enoch in advance, stay strong, vigilant, and happy God Bless

13 votes

#1.9 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 3:24 PM EST

Sir Richard Owen

I would add the contact us button in to the article somewhere. It's a little hard to find on the Wall of Vineness page.

I sent in a YES vote, and a link back to this article.

Good Luck with the Nomination.

14 votes

#1.10 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 3:35 PM EST

j.johnson, thanks for sharing your positive comments about Enoch and your vote. Stay well, my friend.

14 votes

#1.11 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 3:54 PM EST

SRO, thank you for voting, it is appreciated, my friend.

Your advice about the link is great. Thanks. I will try to add it.

12 votes

#1.12 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 4:01 PM EST

Not to take anything away from Enoch, who is a great Viner, but the purpose of the RAV is not to reward someone for being a good viner.

It's given for one moment of greatness above and beyond what a great viner always does. Hence, Random Act of Vineness.

If RAVs were awarded to great Viners, there would have been hundreds given out over the years, and there are many people who would qualify now.

Please notice that every RAV on this page was given for a single act.

12 votes

#1.13 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 5:43 PM EST

Not to take anything away from the RAV recipients but the following statement on the page of your link....

consistent publishing of quality, original articles and dedication to productive discussion and community building.

applies completely to Enoch, so why should he not be considered?

22 votes

#1.14 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 5:55 PM EST

Here is the sated purpose of the award, from that page:

Following is a historical record of all Random Acts of Vineness recognized by Newsvine for exceptional moments of greatness within the community.

Not all Acts are created equal, of course, and no one should assume that any item on this list is any more or less important than any other item. The list is simply a way of documenting some of the outstanding things achieved by members of the Newsvine community. It could be helping a charitable cause, writing a wildly popular article, developing a tool to better use Newsvine, or a host of other things. If you'd like to nominate a fellow Newsvine member for a Random Act of Vineness, please contact us.

The award, by definition, is for an act. Enoch is a great Viner. No dispute there. But over the years there have been many great Viners who were not awarded an RAV because they didn't have that one shining moment of greatness. Actually, there were quite a few who did have that one shining moment, were nominated, but not given the award, and there are people on that list who could easily have had more than one RAV, but weren't awarded it when many thought they deserved it.

12 votes

#1.15 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 6:18 PM EST

Dennis, thanks for stopping by. If you want to vote "No", that is fine by me. Everything you say could very well be true, but I have arrived at a different interpretation of what does and what does not qualify.

It could be helping a charitable cause, writing a wildly popular article. developing a tool to better use newsvine, or a host of other things.

I consider that the unity and understanding within the Newsvine community that Enoch has developed and nurtured has reached a level that should not be ignored.

Perhaps we should wait to determine the value of Enoch's contribution posthumously when there will be no further contributions. However, I fell that I know enough already. If I am wrong, so be it.

17 votes

#1.16 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 7:12 PM EST

Actually, I didn't vote either way. I like Enoch, and think he's a great Viner, and I can see him someday earning an RAV. I'm just pointing out the purpose of the thing, and it's not to reward people for being really good Viners. After all, we're all supposed to be really good Viners.

I consider that the unity and understanding within the Newsvine community that Enoch has developed and nurtured has reached a level that should not be ignored.

And I agree, though I have to say, he's not the first. There have been many people here whom you would have felt exactly the same about, had you known them.

Perhaps we should wait to determine the value of Enoch's contribution posthumously when there will be no further contributions

Hopefully that won't happen. Hopefully he won't leave. But that's sort of my point...the RAV isn't about a Viner's overall contribution. It's about a moment of greatness.

Hell, Walt D liveblogged from the middle of a forest fire. He refused to leave, despite the fire fighters trying everything to get him out of there. He stayed with his house during the biggest forest fire in California's history...and yet found time to keep us all updated on the events as they occurred!

Killfile reported live from Virginia Tech while the shooter was walking around shooting people.

That's dedication. Or maybe just crazy.

I've been nominated 7 times that I know of, and won only once. They (Newsvine) don't take that award lightly. If they did, it might diminish the accomplishments for which it was awarded in the past.

What we really need are more awards. There should be an award for overall contribution, but the RAV isn't it.

9 votes

#1.17 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 7:45 PM EST

There seems to be a double standard here. The quote I posted above is the only description from your link for that particular recipient of the RAV, there was no "one shining moment" mentioned, no "heroic deed", no "life on the line" type of action. I think we're on an uneven playing field here and the rules should either be clearer or adhered to in all cases.

8 votes

#1.18 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 8:24 PM EST

I posted the explanation of what the RAV is for from the top of the page. I don't know where your quote came from, though I assume it was from one of the RAV winners descriptions.

If that's the case, and if that was the whole description, it doesn't seem to meet the criteria, or measure up to the other entries on the page. Was it a partial description or something?

6 votes

#1.19 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 9:43 PM EST

I think it was from my RAV, Dennis. At the time I received the RAV, several of my articles had been picked up by MSNBC. I wrote a lot about bottled water, and water supplies, which is what I know best-- but had to stop since my company preferred that their spokes-person represent them.

However, I did host a VineMeet, and other things, too. If you felt that I didn't measure up to the criteria, perhaps you could take it up with Tyler and Sally. I mean no disrespect by saying that, at all. :-)

Hope you have a great day!

11 votes

#1.20 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 10:02 PM EST

I love you Dowser and I'm sorry to bring it up. You deserved your RAV as we all agree, I'm just using the description as a way to try to understand why Enoch should not be considered.

10 votes

#1.21 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 10:03 PM EST

Levi777

I appreciate his perspective on issues, and have enjoyed commenting on articles he's posted. I'm not absolutely sure if he should receive this award or not, and that by my limited contact with him, but I trust my friend AL-316, and know that he is not given to hysterics, or delusions of grandeur. Yet my limited contact with Enoch, commenting on articles he's posted, I've found him to be insightful (yes, I mean insightful) and have a certain wisdom. When AL-316 says Enoch deserves this award, I believe him.

11 votes

#1.22 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 10:20 PM EST

I think it was from my RAV, Dennis. At the time I received the RAV, several of my articles had been picked up by MSNBC. I wrote a lot about bottled water, and water supplies, which is what I know best-- but had to stop since my company preferred that their spokes-person represent them.

Ah, I see. That's always been a bit of a problem with the Wall of Vineness page. The descriptions often don't live up to the accomplishment, because they're trying to get it all into one sentence, or maybe two short ones. None of the things on that page sound as impressive as they really were.

If you felt that I didn't measure up to the criteria, perhaps you could take it up with Tyler and Sally. I mean no disrespect by saying that, at all. :-)

No, not at all. As I said, the descriptions often seem to minimize the actual accomplishment. Trying to be brief, I guess.

6 votes

#1.23 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 10:45 PM EST

Someday, I'm going to be able to write more about water... But, until I retire, (2055?) I can't write what I would like to write, or what I know. My job buys my medicine, so I can live, to be able to work, to make more money, to buy more medicine. :-)

Take care!

8 votes

#1.24 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 10:48 PM EST

2055.

2055?? As in 43 years from now??

5 votes

#1.25 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 11:02 PM EST

yeah, I'll be 100 years old in 2055... But that will likely be when I can afford to retire! ;-)

11 votes

#1.26 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 11:03 PM EST

I would have been 94.

And I'll never retire. Painters don't retire. They just die. And then get rich. In that order.

11 votes

#1.27 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 11:36 PM EST

mstanley2265

I'm not especially fond of how the RAV is either...but it is what it is..

and this is how I voted:

Best Article Jay's Diner Foursome - Always thoughtful and entertaining Best Author Enoch- His articles and those with co-writers are well written Best Seed bore-head brought to our attention the massive problems facing US fishermen Best Moderator Dennis P McMann - his moderating is well known, I can't add to it :) R.A.V. nominee Carloz - He has 'gone the distance since 2008, seeding, moderating, and often taken for granted but we would really miss him if he ever left NV. I especially think Carloz should get the RAV. He crosses genre's with his seeds, something for everyone. :))

And that's the truth....poets too. ps, I finished another one too. :)

7 votes

#1.28 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:16 AM EST

Kavika

If the RAV requires a single act that stands out, they Enoch is qualified. He did an article on a young First Nations boy that was assaulted by a teacher. His e mail and letter campaign and involving American Indian tribes resulted in the Canadian Ministry of Education changing their policy regarding First Nation children.

THAT qualifies him for the award, PERIOD.....

28 votes

#1.29 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:46 AM EST

You all put forth valid points. It is interesting to note, however, the individual or committee that makes the decision does not contribute any comments or offer suggestions to our discussion here. We are left to our own devises.

One of us, in our view could be right, or we all could be wrong. I have seen other attempts fail without an explanation. I am hoping this attempt is different. Different enough to be successful.

10 votes

#1.30 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 2:18 AM EST

If the RAV requires a single act that stands out, they Enoch is qualified. He did an article on a young First Nations boy that was assaulted by a teacher. His e mail and letter campaign and involving American Indian tribes resulted in the Canadian Ministry of Education changing their policy regarding First Nation children.

I think that's true. When you can change an entire governments stance on an issue, you know you've put in work. If I remember right, you were in on that too, Kav.

19 votes

#1.31 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 3:14 AM EST

Al and Grisham, I have already written to Newsvine regarding the RAV. I neglected to include a reference to the Canadian Ministry of Education policy change brought on by Kavika and Enoch. I would recommend that either one of you, or everybody for that matter, write to NV and point out the policy changes made because of their efforts here on NV.

Maybe that would help.

I think Kavika should get the award, too.

11 votes

#1.32 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 7:17 AM EST

He did an article on a young First Nations boy that was assaulted by a teacher. His e mail and letter campaign and involving American Indian tribes resulted in the Canadian Ministry of Education changing their policy regarding First Nation children.

OK, there you go. Nominate that article for an RAV! By the way, do you have a link? I'd like to read it.

8 votes

#1.33 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 7:19 AM EST

Here's the link, Dennis: http://enoch2699399.newsvine.com/_news/2011/02/11/6033910-cultural-genocide-of-native-people-call-to-action-by-enoch-kavika

13 votes

#1.34 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 8:36 AM EST

I think Kavika should get the award, too.

I agree. If it's for the article, it was a joint effort and Kav deserves as much recognition for his efforts. :)

11 votes

#1.35 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 8:45 AM EST

IndependentAmerican2892850

Thanks, Grisham. Heading there now.

7 votes

#1.36 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 8:50 AM EST

I made my opinion concerning the nomination of Enoch for an RAV known back in July of last year here: http://independentamerican2892850.newsvine.com/_news/2011/07/15/7092290-my-proposed-nomination-for-the-random-act-of-vineness

I stand by my assertions then as now.

8 votes

#1.37 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 11:39 AM EST

IndependentAmerican2892850

IndependentAmerican, indeed, your feelings on this matter are well known. This is just another attempt. Thank you for your vote.

7 votes

#1.38 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 3:10 PM EST

IndependentAmerican, indeed, your feelings on this matter are well known. This is just another attempt. Thank you for your vote.

My pleasure. It is a valiant attempt and will no doubt carry more weight coming from a 'viner such as yourself and with the support of the other exceptional 'viners who have weighed in.

4 votes

#1.39 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 3:56 PM EST

IA, this attempt is not better attempt than yours, my friend, just different.

According to some, and they may be right, this one is doomed to failure. But I am in too deep now to give up. And besides, it might just succeed. lol

7 votes

#1.40 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 4:42 PM EST

Pat from Montana

If it doesn't succed Al, at least E will read this some day and "feel the love"

IA Just read your article as well. That was nicely put together and I was nodding yes to the whole thing.

7 votes

#1.41 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 8:48 PM EST

SuperSaiyan

I would say that Enoch-2699399 deserves the honor because the articles that he writes(and I've had the honor of co-writing one of them myself) are always thought-provoking and reflective.

12 votes

#1.42 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 8:56 PM EST

Pamela Drew

Let me start by saying I got an email from AL-316 asking me to comment on an article with no clue what it might be. The appreciation for another contributor is admirable & presumably I was enlisted to support a worthy nominee. My comment isn't a randomly selective opportunity to address the topic of rankings and recognition, but now that I'm here you can get my honest opinion.

I agree with the points made by Dennis McCann's in #1.15 but would take it farther. No way! To award someone with 54 articles, zero seed and no remarkable events would be a real slap in the face to so many, including me, who have contributed more for much longer, simply as part of the Newsvine community.

8 votes

#1.43 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 10:36 PM EST

Pat from Montana, I agree with your comments and am grateful for your vote. Thank you.

5 votes

#1.44 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 1:22 AM EST

SuperSaiyan, Thank you for voting and your past efforts.

5 votes

#1.45 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 1:26 AM EST

Pamela Drew, Dennis does present valid points as do you. Thank you for voting.

3 votes

#1.46 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 1:28 AM EST

Neetu M.

Absolutely, Enoch deserves it!

Neale, are you being yourself again????? Those guns make you want to fight!

He deserves nothing of the sort- his articles never have any fights for me to have fun with!! I nominate him for Vine-saint canonization.

1 vote

#1.47 - Mon Apr 2, 2012 9:05 AM EDT

I agree. Enoch deserves it. :)

18 votes

#2 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 3:27 AM EST

Grisham, Thank you.

16 votes

#2.1 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 3:38 AM EST

Andrew331978

Totally!!! Go Enoch!!!

16 votes

#3 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 3:30 AM EST

Andrew, Thank you for voting.

15 votes

#3.1 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 4:33 AM EST

Andrew331978

Who was the douchebag who just voted no? I just saw it. What a a**hole. Enoch deserves the award.

14 votes

#3.2 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 4:38 AM EST

WTF??
That's just nasty!

16 votes

#3.3 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 5:15 AM EST

Wasn't me!! I tried to vote twice!

15 votes

#3.4 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 10:40 AM EST

Who was the douchebag who just voted no? I just saw it. What a a**hole. Enoch deserves the award.

There will always be the usual rigidly inflexible types-- nitpickers and whiners who show up to challenge anything positive. But, IMO, its best to ignore them.

Let's focus on the positive... 8-)

12 votes

#3.5 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 7:17 PM EST

and Enoch wouldn't want anyone called an A-hole over him.

12 votes

#3.6 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 8:10 PM EST

and Enoch wouldn't want anyone called an A-hole over him.

Exactly!

An excellent point :-)

13 votes

#3.7 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 8:12 PM EST

GA Girl-718836

I vote yes!

11 votes

#3.8 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 9:20 PM EST

Andrew331978

and Enoch wouldn't want anyone called an A-hole over him.

Sowyy, I can be a pottymouth. :)

How about I call him frakhole instead. It's right out of Battlestar Galactica LOL

7 votes

#3.9 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 9:33 PM EST

GA Girl, Thank you for voting.

10 votes

#3.10 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 2:23 AM EST

Cool, andrew.

4 votes

#3.11 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 3:23 PM EST

Who was the douchebag who just voted no? I just saw it. What a a**hole. Enoch deserves the award.

IMO, this is an unconscionable comment. One should be able to vote their mind without concerns about being called names. Reported as inflammatory.

While Enoch, a friend of mine, may well deserve the nomination and possibly the RAV, there may be some that have reservations. Ie; his length of time as a member, his total number of contributions and as Dennis points out in #1.13, the lack of focus on a particular act.

Keep in mind, that of the many hundreds of Viners that have made substantial contributions to Newsvine, only 25 have been singled out for this honor.

I wish Enoch good luck with the voting, and commend AL for his gracious nomination.

9 votes

#3.12 - Thu Feb 2, 2012 12:18 PM EST

Look at the vine symbol next to his avatar...

Jerry, thank you for stopping by. Your comments are duly noted. Whereas, I am going to pursue this attempt through completion, your comments, and others also, have made me think that a different approach might have had a better chance for success.

I would rather fail and know why then fail and have no clue.

Thanks for your vote, if you did, and thanks if you didn't.

6 votes

#3.13 - Thu Feb 2, 2012 1:00 PM EST

FlNutmegger

Al-316:, Let it be shown here that if there is such a thing as a "Viner Committee" I would suspect that they would be pleased to have input, such as yours, and support, such as ours, for a candidate! Anyone who has garnered such a broad spectrum of admirers as Enoch has, deserves recognition for his contributions for the betterment of the Viner environment. As with others here, I am proud to list him as FRIEND! How will we know if he does receive this well deserved honor?

8 votes

#3.14 - Thu Feb 2, 2012 1:15 PM EST

MalamuteMan

How will we know if he does receive this well deserved honor?

7 votes

#3.15 - Thu Feb 2, 2012 1:25 PM EST

his total number of contributions and as Dennis points out in #1.13, the lack of focus on a particular act.

Whoa-- wait a second here Jerry Verlinger!

Some people are arguing that he doesn't deserve it because the nomination is based on his overall contributions, and that the RAV is pnly for"a random act of Vineness". Act-- singular. One contribution.

.In other words-- the RAV should only be awarded for one single exceptional act. One.

And now you are arguing that he shouldn't get it because of the low # of total contributions!

I'm not sure what you are trying to say here-- do you think that it must be based only on 1 exemplary contribution and not total number-- or are you saying we should take into account not only 1 contribution but also the "total contributions? ("total" meaning more than 1).

Or is there really some other factor at play here...?

3 votes

#3.16 - Thu Feb 2, 2012 5:17 PM EST

While Enoch, a friend of mine, may well deserve the nomination and possibly the RAV, there may be some that have reservations.

1. I'm not sure i see why the fact that he is a friend of yours would have any relevancy as to whether or not he is nominated...???

2. He may deserve it-- and some people may have reservations?

So what?

Have you ever seen this sort of discussion (that is, when it involved more than just 2 or 3 people) where everyone was in agreement?

I suppose one could also say that he doesn't deserve it-- but that there are some 'Viners who feel that he does!!!

3 votes

#3.17 - Thu Feb 2, 2012 5:25 PM EST

Whoa-- wait a second here Jerry Verlinger!

I'm not sure what you are trying to say here

Obviously.

Some people are arguing that he doesn't deserve it because the nomination is based on his overall contributions, and that the RAV is pnly for"a random act of Vineness". Act-- singular. One contribution.

.In other words-- the RAV should only be awarded for one single exceptional act. One.

And now you are arguing that he shouldn't get it because of the low # of total contributions!

Where in my comment did I say he should not get the RAV?

My comment is in response to #3.2 by Andrew that had something to say about a negative vote, and I was simply pointing out some of the things that may cause people to have reservations and cast a no vote.

If you bothered to go to the link provided by Dennis and read the reasons the 25 RAVs were bestowed, you might have understood what I am trying to say.

Receiving an RAV is not a result of a popularity contest. They are given as a reward for performing a Random ACT of Vineness. Not necessarily one act or one article, but a focus on one particluar issue, topic, incident or series of events.

I'm not sure i see why the fact that he is a friend of yours would have any relevancy as to whether or not he is nominated..

It doesn't. It has relevancy to my comment. I wanted to make it clear I don't have anything against Enoch.

I repeat what I said in #3.12 "I wish Enoch good luck with the voting, and commend AL for his gracious nomination."

5 votes

#3.18 - Thu Feb 2, 2012 5:58 PM EST

My comment is in response to #3.2 by Andrew that had something to say about a negative vote, and I was simply pointing out some of the things that may cause people to have reservations and cast a no vote.

Oh. OK

Sorry, I misunderstood what you said.

If you bothered to go to the link provided by Dennis and read the reasons the 25 RAVs were bestowed, you might have understood what I am trying to say.

Actually I did. But i was thinking that just because that was the way it was done previously wouldn't necessarily mean that that couldn't be changed.

6 votes

#3.19 - Thu Feb 2, 2012 6:43 PM EST

Pat from Montana

MalamuteMan~ re 3.15 I never knew about the vine. That is very informative in itself. Thanks much.

1 vote

#3.20 - Thu Feb 2, 2012 7:06 PM EST

I am not trying to create a haze over how someone is considered worthy of a RAV, but when I look at the justifications for the previous 26 RAVs, I conclude that it is awarded in recognition of an accomplishment which in some way improves Newsvine or the image of Newsvine.

I observe some instances where a series of acts resulted in final accomplishment. In any case, the decision is not mine to make. Only the decision to nominate Enoch is mine.

My view is that Enoch is worthy of a RAV because of his continued and repeated efforts to bring to Newsvine a sense of unity and acceptance for one another which transcends race, religion, gender, social, economic, cultural, political, and educational differences.

This was never intended to be a popularity contest or a comparative analysis. I personally invited individuals who I knew don't see eye to eye with Enoch on many issues. This was intended to reflect an honest cross section of vine members and how they view Enoch's contribution and whether it was positive or negative.

Judge for yourself. Does Enoch fit into this group? I think he does. For one of his articles? Maybe. For his cumulative articles? Definitly.

June 27, 2006 — Corey Spring was awarded the Random Act of Vineness for his co-chairing the Newsvine Relay For Life Cancer Walk.

June 27, 2006 — TopJedi was awarded the Random Act of Vineness for his co-chairing the Newsvine Relay For Life Cancer Walk.

August 21, 2006 — Oldfogey was awarded the Random Act of Vineness for running for U.S. Congress in the state of Ohio, getting his name on the official ballot, and chronicling the experience on his Newsvine column.

December 4, 2006 — Zaki was awarded the Random Act of Vineness for his excellent "embedded" reporting from Kabul, Afghanistan.

December 4, 2006 — winsomecowboy was awarded the Random Act of Vineness for his efforts in coordinating a package put together by the Newsvine community for the benefit of Zaki in Afghanistan.

January 16, 2007 — Aine MacDermot was awarded the Random Act of Vineness for her continuing dedication to helping others around the Vine, and for creating and fostering the Newsvine Help Group.

January 16, 2007 — Mykola Bilokonsky was awarded the Random Act of Vineness for his inspiring idea to create Newsvine Groups, and for his hard work in founding and cultivating Newsvine's healthiest example of this feature.

March 19, 2007 — Celestina was awarded the Random Act of Vineness for her terrific on-air radio interview about her writings and Newsvine, as well as her lifetime of great stewardship around the Vine.

April 17, 2007 — Killfile was awarded the Random Act of Vineness for his consistently outstanding original reporting, culminating in his blow-by-blow coverage of the Virginia Tech shooting which beat major media outlets by 22 minutes or more.

May 26, 2007 — Steve Watts was awarded the Random Act of Vineness for his captivating and well-written Newsvine series covering the TV show "Lost": "Lost in the Vines".

June 4, 2007 — Sandy Frost was awarded the Random Act of Vineness for her award-winning investigative series on the Shriners.

September 21, 2007 — Walt D. was awarded the Random Act of Vineness for his organizing of Vinemeet West and his excellent first-hand reporting of the biggest forest fire in the United States.

September 24, 2007 — Synthesis was awarded the Random Act of Vineness for his original, investigative reporting of the Blackwater scandal in Iraq.

September 26, 2007 — Brian Ford was awarded the Random Act of Vineness for his creation of Newsvine Survivor, as well as the tremendous amount of effort he has put into the Vine over the last couple of years.

November 8, 2007 — Viki Babbles Gonia was awarded the Random Act of Vineness for her appearance on MSNBC discussing the democratic presidential debate and her tireless efforts around the Vine.

December 7, 2007 — Rob Ballew was awarded the Random Act of Vineness for his brave and original reporting from the frontlines of Iraq.

January 25, 2008 — lauhal was awarded the Random Act of Vineness for her tireless efforts fighting spam and malicious behavior on the Vine.

January 25, 2008 — Red Wolf was awarded the Random Act of Vineness for her tireless efforts fighting spam and malicious behavior on the Vine.

February 28, 2008 — Dennis P. McCann was awarded the Random Act of Vineness for his tireless efforts towards eliminating religious bigotry and prejudice on the Vine.

June 27, 2008 — Jack Gillis was awarded the Random Act of Vineness for his reporting and analysis of declassified audio clips from a valedictory luncheon with Donald Rumsfeld.

August 14, 2008 — Tedd Riggs was awarded the Random Act of Vineness for his sustained and determined efforts in helping enforce the Code of Honor and shepherd new users into the community.

August 29, 2008 — Miss Dev was awarded the Random Act of Vineness for her tireless contributions as a coordinator and citizen journalist for Newsvine coverage of the 2008 Democratic National Convention.

January 27, 2009 — Shawn Gordon was awarded the Random Act of Vineness for creating and publishing "The Unofficial Vine" book, featuring some of the best content from Newsvine throughout the years.

January 12, 2011 — Dowser was awarded the Random Act of Vineness for her consistent publishing of quality, original articles and dedication to productive discussion and community building.

January 12, 2011 — Ben Josephs was awarded the Random Act of Vineness for his founding and admirable stewardship of the long-running Newsvine photography series Foto-Friday, in addition to being a sterling column moderator and commenter.

March 16, 2011 — Physicist-retired was awarded the Random Act of Vineness for his timely and strong analysis of the nuclear crisis in the aftermath of the Tohoku earthquake and tsunami, and his excellent subsequent moderation and responses.

5 votes

#3.21 - Thu Feb 2, 2012 10:12 PM EST

Well, I think he deserves it, naturally-- Enoch never hesitates to contact the individual and offer help-- a fact which may go unnoticed by a lot of viners, but is very noticed by those who are struggling with heartbreak.

I think Enoch's articles on chaplaincy have helped all of us-- either in dealing with our own problems, or in helping others.

16 votes

#3.22 - Thu Feb 2, 2012 10:27 PM EST

One of the main arguments of the naysayers here is that the RAV is for a notable single act-- rather than ongoing efforts. However, some of the previous RAVs were not for a single act either. Like Enoch, they were for the quality of an ongoing presence, and the effect it had. For example:

January 25, 2008 — lauhal was awarded the Random Act of Vineness for her tireless efforts fighting spam and malicious behavior on the Vine.

That's certainly not a case of "a single act of Vineness". Really-- did she do something extraordinary against spam on one occasion only? Of course not-- it was her ongoing efforts over time that earned her the RAV!

8 votes

#3.23 - Thu Feb 2, 2012 11:22 PM EST

The are other examples on the list, but I'm not going to spend times looking for them and copy and pasting them.

Not to take anything away from Enoch, who is a great Viner, but the purpose of the RAV is not to reward someone for being a good viner.

It's given for one moment of greatness above and beyond what a great viner always does. Hence, Random Act of Vineness.

Well-- in that case-- would you therefore start a campaign to have lauhal's RAV taken away? That would certainly be foolish-- she certainly deserved it.

Since the award winning efforts were for noteworthy conduct over time (as is the case with Enoch!)-- and not merely a single act-- then she doesn't meet the requirements which you are (mistakenly) claiming to be true!

???

7 votes

#3.24 - Thu Feb 2, 2012 11:24 PM EST

Yes.....only ONE random act per person please. We don't want to start becoming too nice. Some of us might start believing in our fellow man again and that would just be terrible. Keep your good acts to a minimum people! lmao

What in the world has Enoch been thinking? Now his chances a ruined because he's exceeded his limit by WAAAAY too much. If only he hadn't gotten so carried away. lol

8 votes

#3.25 - Thu Feb 2, 2012 11:30 PM EST

FlNutmegger

Al-316:, Well and truly said. I can think of no person more eminently qualified for this honor than Enoch for his untiring efforts for the betterment of the Viner community. For all of us who can proudly say that Enoch is our friend, consider the honor of his friendship as golden.

6 votes

#3.26 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 8:40 AM EST

I'm not "friends" with Enoch. Not because I don't want to be. I have so much admiration for him, I don't feel worthy of asking it. I wouldn't doubt he'd accept all friend requests but does he send many out himself? I don't know. "Friend" or not, I listen to what he adds which is always very valuable.

7 votes

#3.27 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 9:32 AM EST

FINutmegger, Thank you for expressing your thoughts and your vote.

5 votes

#3.28 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 10:45 AM EST

Becky, this is why he deserves the RAV-- he would not hesitate to accept your friendship request if he knows you! Talk with him a bit, and let him get to know YOU. :-)

Enoch is a good and loving person. He would enjoy getting to know you better! As would I!

10 votes

#3.29 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 10:49 AM EST

Becky, I think Enoch would be honored to have someone like you as a friend, I do.

I will walk you up to his front door. All you need to do is his ring his door bell.

Enoch's door bell. lol

8 votes

#3.30 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 10:53 AM EST

OKAY.....OKAY.....I'll ask him. lol

Ya'll are too kind....stop that now! :)

7 votes

#3.31 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 11:31 AM EST

Sorry, I misunderstood what you said.

No problem Krishna, sorry I came back at you so hard.

While I support any nomination for a RAV, I wanted to point out some of the concerns AL may run into with this particular nomination.

Actually Enoch does do a lot of good work on the Vine and his nomination is certainly deserved, as he obviously has a lot of supporters, but whether he gets the RAV or not will be determined by many additional factors that his supporters have no control over.

4 votes

#3.32 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 12:02 PM EST

Enoch is super rockin'

I sent a FR, he ignored my request and sent me one which I've GLADLY and humbly accepted. Good move Enoch and I'm happy to call you friend. :)

7 votes

#3.33 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 1:12 PM EST

"I sent a FR, he ignored my request and sent me one...."

He may not have "ignored" your FR. The "Join In" link doesn't always work, and you have to send a FR back instead.

The same thing sometimes happens with the "Accept/Reject" link for the "Request for Membership" in a group.

5 votes

#3.34 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 1:19 PM EST

Halifax Oliver

I was pretty tickled when he sent me one the other day. I vote yea.

3 votes

#3.35 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 12:03 AM EST

Halifax, welcome to Encoh's circle. Thank you for visiting and voting.

2 votes

#3.36 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 12:52 AM EST

mightyj

Enoch is a voice of reason when the vine gets thorny. I'll vote yes.

20 votes

#4 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 3:50 AM EST

Mightyj, your vote is appreciated.

16 votes

#4.1 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 4:34 AM EST

Joanna Caroll

Enoch is a voice of reason when the vine gets thorny. I'll vote yes.

Nominated! Enoch is a voice of reason on the Vine, humorous and always kind. ~~JJ, but why must sex be brought into this?~~ Oh, thorny...nevermind :)

12 votes

#4.2 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 2:56 PM EST

I am a speed reader and I didn't read "thorny", either.

12 votes

#4.3 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 2:58 PM EST

*crying with laughter*
You guys!
:D

8 votes

#4.4 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 3:32 PM EST

I am a slow reader and read thorny, and thought he meant thorny. It never occurred to me that he is a code talker.

11 votes

#4.5 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 4:04 PM EST

tzia62

Most definitely, he has shown kindness, made us think, and taught us many things!

13 votes

#5 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 9:26 AM EST

Thank you, Tzia62, for voting.

13 votes

#5.1 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 9:32 AM EST

etva

Enoch has made a positive difference on the vine. I vote yes.

16 votes

#6 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 9:32 AM EST

He has, and continues to do so. Thank you for voting, etva.

14 votes

#6.1 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 9:42 AM EST

Kavika

My vote is YES...Enoch is the calm in the storm.

16 votes

#7 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 9:43 AM EST

I agree. Migwetch gete niijii.

14 votes

#7.1 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 10:00 AM EST

tzia62

Duh, how could I have forgotten to mention his witty sense of humor too!!!

13 votes

#8 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 9:53 AM EST

And all those times he has taken us to Jay's Diner for .....

13 votes

#8.1 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 10:01 AM EST

tzia62

*smacks forehead * How could I have forgotten that?? (maybe it's selective memory) lol

15 votes

#8.2 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 10:29 AM EST

The person who voted against him probably ate at Jay's, and is holding a grudge over losing a family member. Understandable, but unforgiveable to vote against him!!

14 votes

#8.3 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 10:48 AM EST

Or, (and even more likely) it was Enoch, who would deny he deserved any such honor.

13 votes

#8.4 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 11:12 AM EST

bore-head007

I vote yes.

An ambassador of the Lord that reaches out to both sides of the aisle of spiritual belief on the vine.

15 votes

#9 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 10:14 AM EST

That he does, and more. Thank you, bore-head, for taking the poll.

13 votes

#9.1 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 10:41 AM EST

bore-head007

Y' welcome Al!

13 votes

#9.2 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 10:44 AM EST

I vote yes.

An ambassador of the Lord that reaches out to both sides of the aisle of spiritual belief on the vine.

Well stated!

We could use more people like him on the 'Vine!

I vote "Yes" as well!

11 votes

#9.3 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 5:28 PM EST

Krishna, thank you for your time and your vote.

8 votes

#9.4 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 7:15 PM EST

Krishna, thank you for your time and your vote.

And thank you for initiating this well-deserved effort :)

8 votes

#9.5 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 7:18 PM EST

Hiram-1381633

:-)

12 votes

#10 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 10:35 AM EST

Hiram, thank your for taking the poll.

13 votes

#10.1 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 10:44 AM EST

I hope everyone is taking the poll. That is more important than leaving a comment. Thanks guys.

15 votes

#11 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 10:46 AM EST

I'm in....go Enoch!

6 votes

#11.1 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 9:30 AM EST

Becky, thank you for visiting and voting. It is good to see you.

6 votes

#11.2 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 9:39 AM EST

Good seeing you too Al :)

6 votes

#11.3 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 10:05 AM EST

maddad

mmmmmmmmmmmmmm...decisions, decisions......

14 votes

#12 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 11:12 AM EST

Maddad, what ever your decision is, I know it is the right one. Thanks for taking the poll.

13 votes

#12.1 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 2:01 PM EST

maddad

;)

14 votes

#12.2 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 3:17 PM EST

bitemore

I voted "yes." I don't think this is the first time Enoch has been recommended for a RAV in an article - so it is way past time for him to get one!

13 votes

#13 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 11:34 AM EST

I am trying a different technique this time.

Hopefully, there will be some of those who visit this article who will actually nominate Enoch using the normal procedures found in the link I show in the article.

Then, I intend to nominate him myself and use the polling results as supporting evidence that I am not alone. I am trying to make it easy for the Newvine folks to give Enoch his due. Maybe this approach will work.

Thank you for voting, bitemore.

12 votes

#13.1 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 2:08 PM EST

Stop The Hypocrisy

So help me Myrtle, if Enoch doesn't get an RAV solely on the strength of my YES vote, I'll hold my breath until Abby turns blue. Don't push me on this - I haven't had my coffee today for medical reasons, so I'm not somebody you want to trifle with.

13 votes

#14 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 11:39 AM EST

Stop The Hypocrisy, I am holding my breath, too. Thank you for voting.

11 votes

#14.1 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 2:14 PM EST

I'M holding BOTH of your breaths. Hope you have good lungs!! (painting Abby blue to hasten compliance from NV)

11 votes

#14.2 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 2:35 PM EST

I'm blue!
I'm blue!
*giggles*
:D

10 votes

#14.3 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 3:36 PM EST

Now that the paint is dry, let me help you back in to your clothes!! Or maybe not.......

9 votes

#14.4 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 6:16 PM EST

;)

7 votes

#14.5 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 3:29 AM EST

http://www.newsvine.com/_nv/cms/info/vineness

I really do hope this all brings Enoch to the attention of the Newsvine Powers That Be. I would really be tickled to see Enoch get a RAV because of this effort.

Everyone remember to go here :

15 votes

#15 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 11:53 AM EST

Stop The Hypocrisy

So what happened from January 2009 to early 2011? Was everybody a jerk on the Vine for those two years?

9 votes

#15.1 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 12:06 PM EST

Here is a copy of the letter I sent to Newsvine.

Be sure to go to the Random Acts of Vineness page, click on contact us and write why you feel Enoch is deserving of this recognition.

Subject: Random Act of Vineness nomination for Enoch-2699399.

http://enoch2699399.newsvine.com/

Whether you realize it or not, Enoch is Newsvine's Chaplain. His efforts to provide spiritual guidance, comfort and humor to those who wander Newsvine's pages is steadfast. A quick look at his column page articles and the wealth of his kind and enlightening responses is enlightening. There is no doubt in my mind that Enoch strives with every article to make Newsvine a better, more human, kind, loving and compassionate place to explore and learn. Often, his articles are written with a co-author who may not share his faith but who does share and recognize the basic things that make us human.

He has personally helped me through a rough spot and I came to realize that he had more to offer than most who claim to offer.

Thank you for your consideration, grump in NM

15 votes

#15.2 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 12:25 PM EST

Grump, you are part a big family here which has benefited in many ways from Enoch's kindness and warmth. Thank you for voting here and your individual efforts, too.

14 votes

#15.3 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 2:19 PM EST

MsAubrey

That is absolutely wonderful Grump. ☺

Oh... And of course I voted yes.

9 votes

#15.4 - Mon Feb 6, 2012 11:37 AM EST

Buzz of the Orient

grump, that was beautifully worded, and every word is true.

9 votes

#15.5 - Mon Feb 6, 2012 11:50 AM EST

MsAubrey, I am so glad to see you here. Thank you for stopping by and voting.

9 votes

#15.6 - Mon Feb 6, 2012 12:03 PM EST

Halifax Oliver

Boss, grump. Boss.

1 vote

#15.7 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 12:06 AM EST

Arnold Clapsaddle

Enoch is the kind of person I aspire to be.

5 votes

#15.8 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 2:29 PM EST

Arnold, welcome, my friend. Thank you for taking the time to visit and make your opinion known.

2 votes

#15.9 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:06 PM EST

Remote Viewer

Dear Enoch deserves this honor and far more.

11 votes

#16 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 12:15 PM EST

Remote Viewer, you said it all. Thank you for voting.

10 votes

#16.1 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 2:23 PM EST

Master Link

I haven't yet taken the opportunity to explore Enoch's page, but based on the response of his friends I'll vote Yes.

To Al-316 of course I'll accept your FR, unfortunately I botched the accept by hitting the add to friends on your page.

Not enough coffee you know!

Please accept my request and apologies.

Master Link

9 votes

#17 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 1:15 PM EST

Hey, Master Link, the FR will work itself out.

Right now your vote here is more important. For too long, Enoch has been denied his rightful place on the RAV list.

Thanks for casting your vote.

13 votes

#17.1 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 2:42 PM EST

Absolutely YES!! Enoch is a dear friend to most everyone that comes into contact with him and is always willing to take the time to discuss whatever is going on with you at the time. He is solid as a rock and never sways. A great moderator of his articles, and I'm proud to say, a very good friend!

I have a few ideas about who voted "no" but will keep that to myself.

I see people awarded the RAV for far less than what Enoch has contributed and would find it a shame on NV to deny this.

10 votes

#18 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 1:58 PM EST

Dare To Hope, thanks for your vote and observations.

9 votes

#18.1 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 2:45 PM EST

virginia-1492786

WTHeck? You mean Enoch hasn't gotten a RAV yet??? Somebody must be asleep somewhere. He should definitely be rewarded with all honor. It will be a good reason for him to take us all to Jay's to celebrate :P

Voted yes on RAV and voted article up!

10 votes

#19 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 2:24 PM EST

Virginia, thanks for your vote. We will meet at Jay's later

9 votes

#19.1 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 2:48 PM EST

G. H.

I'm in! Enoch is one of, if not THE best person on Newsvine! He is loving, kind, intelligent and understanding. His compassion truly seems endless, yet he can turn almost anything into deliciously digestable humor. No heartburn from Enoch, only heartGLOW! :-)

(((((((((Enoch)))))))))

12 votes

#20 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 2:28 PM EST

G.H., well said and thanks for voting.

11 votes

#20.1 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 2:50 PM EST

Carloz

I'm with you, G.H. He's got my vote! Thanks for the article, Al.

12 votes

#20.2 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 6:26 PM EST

I'm with you, G.H. He's got my vote! Thanks for the article, Al.

Agreed...

If anyone deserves it-- its Enoch! :-)

(Besides all he's done to make the 'Vine a better place-- he's also been a role model for others. And the importance of that should not be underestimated!!!)

11 votes

#20.3 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 7:12 PM EST